ed124c 5pts Three things: 1. This Forester also has a power driver's seat. 2. Three guys drive the stick and don't say anything about how well it works? 3. After driving the Forester's so-called upgraded CVT, I have decided that I hate the CVT, and the 6 speed manual doesn't get good enough mpgs. Bottom line-- The only Subaru I now can buy is the Impreza (not the Crosstrek) 5 door hatch with the five speed manual. The other Subarus either have a CVT or disastrous mpgs (the 3.6 boxer 6 gets 18/25 in both the Legacy sedan and Outback.) I am looking elsewhere, even though my last two cars have been Outbacks. I need to drive the new RAV4-- it has a real 6 speed automatic. I have decided that, at my now age of 71, I will need to get an automatic. I love the stick (haven't bought an auto since 1978) but it is becoming a nuisance. I might buy a nice compact or midsize with an automatic for long Summer drives, etc, and save the Outback for Winter driving and hauling lots of stuff. Times and old people change, I guess. PS: The 2013 Accord's CVT is great-- I drove a friends new LX Accord.