tumbleweed2 5pts The old adage "you get what you pay for" definitely applies here and, anytime you discuss Hyundai and Kia.In my opinion, cars built by these companies are for people who want a "deal". that is, they want the real thing but they are willing to settle for 2nd best because it saves them a few thousand dollars. I would rather have my 07 Honda Civic Si than this or ANYTHING H or K offers. If I can "really" afford the real thing, why should I pay to have a placebo? No, if I can only afford to spend a certain amount of money I prefer to get the best available instead of settling for something less. Over the long haul I believe my money is better spent in reliability, resale and peace of mind. For too long Americans have been willing to settle for 2nd best in many areas to their hurt spiritually, nationally and in many other ways.